Heather shared this message in a Skype chat, and I thought it was well worth sharing. I asked for permission (just like we did with the Poof interview lol) and here was her response:
Heather: Sure…go for it…just post also with data that loan and debt are two different concepts, legally, lawfully, factually and as a matter of public policy.
The following dialogue is pulled directly from the Skype conversation:
Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf:
QUESTION HAS BEEN POPPING UP REGARDING STUDENT LOANS, MORTGAGE LOANS, ETC…
ALMOST EVERY LOAN, IF NOT EVERY LOAN, IS FRAUD…NO LOAN WAS MADE. IF NO LOAN WAS MADE, THEN NO DEBT COULD LAWFULLY OR LEGALLY EXIST.
WAS A LOAN MADE? HERE IS WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRODUCE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THAT A LOAN WAS MADE AND THAT YOU MAY HAVE A DEBT:
1. produce documentation of prior title, ownership and rights to the money they purportedly loaned you
2. produce documentation of the history and origin of funds that they purporetedly had prior title, ownership and rights to that they purportedly loaned you (banking requires 3 generations at least if not all the way back to issuance/creation of the alleged funds…this is why banks issue a letter of origin/history of funds)
3. produce documentation of the actual transaction and transfer of said funds (prior title, ownership, and rights) from loaner to borrower (invoicing/receipts) there is a difference between a “loan” and “debt,” conceptually and factually
look up the definitions of loan and debt
difference between statement and invoice…only an invoice has to be paid…however they would first have to show that they made you a loan…if no loan, each invoice is fraud, mail fraud, etc.
Side Note: I share this on the day I will be sending a little Courtesy Notice to the wonderful people over at Chase bank to let them know that the money they purportedly “loaned” me for my car is fraudulent and I will no longer be sending in ANY payments 🙂