We very much appreciate your keenness and yes we would say we are in full throttle and ready to chat with you.
That’s great. I have a question that I would like to ask on behalf of many who have written in and that is … ‘How can one be in JOY as we have been asked to do … if they are suffering great pain … be it physically or emotionally?’ I am blessed in that I suffer neither these days, yet many do and when one is in continual pain or depressed … it is not AT ALL easy to BE IN JOY. Can you offer some wisdom to those who FEEL this way?
Let us first of all state that one’s life path is an individual one. That which is ‘bestowed’ upon a physicality is through choice for the benefit of self.
Let’s dive straight on in here … ‘Bestowed’? I would imagine that will offend many who are suffering … It is hardly a blessing!
And yet we would disagree. For all that is ‘given’ to the soul is an opportunity no matter what form it takes. One will find it difficult to understand that they have ‘asked’ for a particular disease or that they have ‘asked’ to suffer for many many years with an ongoing ailment. Yet we say to you this is so. There are many reasons for this … which of course will be according to the soul’s journey and its needs.
Here also we would like to talk about karma. One tends to think that if they have a debilitating illness maybe it is due to something they have done in a past life and that they are paying their debts.
This is not the way we would put it. There are no debts to pay.
What … even with murderers etc? … People who have committed great crimes?
This is correct. It is not ‘another’ that judges ones behaviour at any given moment and decides what ‘punishment’ one should have. It is not like that at all. It is the individual soul who decides its pathway and what will serve its soul in any given life time.
If perhaps one was to maim another in a previous position … then they do not get ‘punished’ by being maimed by another in a future life time. That soul may well CHOOSE to be maimed by another … in order to experience that which they put on another … and in that way they are repenting for what they may have done … yet they are not paying a debt. It does not work like that.
So what would be the benefits of deciding to be really ill for most of a given life time? … What gain is to be had when it is so hard in that situation to be of JOY?
It would depend on each individual circumstance as we have stated. There are many many reasons why this would take place. If it is from a learning curve point of view then the soul … although not understanding ‘why’ in the present situation … would perhaps have chosen that for the soul’s growth. It was a hard yet necessary situation to undertake and Truly only fully understood when out of the experience. If the soul knew WHY it had such an ailment it would not gain all that was possible through it.
I know quite a few ‘Enlightened Beings’ that have had such a hard time with the physical body … really painful times … when they cannot get out of bed most days … year after year. HOW can they be of JOY as you ask?
We DO understand what you are trying to put across. Yet we are concerned a little that it may not be understood what we are trying to put across to you. For we are coming from an entirely different perspective. We ask those who are suffering to KNOW that what we say comes ONLY THROUGH LOVE for you … even though you may not accept it.
JOY does not come from any physicality. It is not physical. JOY comes from within the heart place.
And if it is that one has ‘chosen’ to experience pain in its different forms … who is to say that it is not the challenge asked for … to find the JOY of life … even amongst all the hardship?
May be one chose it to be a shining example to others. May be one chose it to assist another in their understanding in patience. Maybe the illness was entirely ‘sacrificial’ … in that one ‘offered’ to undergo such pain in order to serve another.
Would one do that you ask? Of course … You would be surprised at the extreme lengths a soul will go to in order to benefit the whole.
Yet I am sure many would say ‘You try! You try finding JOY when every day you have to get through this constant pain’.
And with respect … with ALL respect … we would say ‘No … you try! For it is you that has asked for it’.
The issue we believe … for the soul in such a position of that which you speak … would be arguing our words as they read them. Yet we ask you to TRUST that what we offer in wisdom is from our TRUTH.
IT IS YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS ANYTHING THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS ANYTHING THAT MAKES YOU WHO YOU ARE.
Yes … there are those that choose to suffer day after day and their pain is great and they moan and moan and moan. There are those that choose to suffer and their pain is greater … yet they offer ONLY LOVE to others and will always find a smile. Which of these is an example of LOVE? Which leaves ‘hope in hearts’?
I do see what you are saying … but I must keep going here for clarity. I have had quite a few times in my life’s experience when I have been pretty sick and ‘my life force’ has almost left me. I had not the strength to ‘BE OF JOY’ … and certainly at times when in pain for a long time … there was no JOY in me to be mustered. The pain takes over … where is the JOY in that?
There is none.
I rest my case.
Yet … there is HOPE! Here again we focus on one’s attitude. We would be as bold to say also that:
ONES’ ATTITUDE IS THE GREATEST HEALER!
If one … no matter what … focuses on the best outcome … ALWAYS … then without question the best outcome will derive from that focus.
IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST OUTCOME THAT ONE EXPECTED … Yet it will be the best outcome for the benefit of the soul.
These words may be difficult to absorb for many … yet they are of TRUTH.
THE JOY CAN COME FROM THE ATTITUDE.
One can be in great pain … yet find a joke or two. One can focus on a life without the pain … even when ‘tortured’ by it in each moment … Or one can focus on the pain and how it is destroying their lives and wondering if there is any practical point in continuing on.
Friends … we ask you to take these words into the depth of your hearts.
YOU KNEW BEFORE YOU CAME OF THAT WHICH WILL SERVE YOU.
Therefore … may we offer another perspective? If you KNEW that the illness and pain you have was chosen by you to allow you to be a better soul … then BE OF JOY about that. Be JOYFUL that you are serving your souls desire in this way.
The soul gains so much insight through having to experience the opposite of JOY. Yet there is a peaceful understanding that can enter the spirit self when there is no judgment of self.
Many may ask ‘Why me. Why should I deserve such misery?’ We would say ‘No-one deserves misery.’ Yet many may adopt the thought pattern that they must have done something terribly wrong in another life time to have to suffer the way they are in this one.
LET GO OF ANY THOUGHTS OF GUILT AND UNWORTHINNESS.
THESE THOUGHTS ARE CREATED BY THE SELF AND HAVE NO PLACE ANYWHERE!!!
There are those also who FEEL that due to their pain/illness etc. they may not be here on the planet to witness ‘THE EVENT’ that you speak of and this saddens them greatly because they FEEL ‘What was the point of their lives if it was wracked with pain and then they had to leave the physical before experiencing the glory of what has been keeping them going … THE EVENT ‘… if you see what I am saying?
KNOW THIS. Not one soul leaves this planet accidently.
White Cloud has spoken of this and although I can accept it … I find it hard to fathom.
Each soul KNOWS when they are to be born and when they are to depart from the Earthly experience.
What about suicides?
That is another matter.
Is it too delicate a one to discuss? As it contradicts what you have just said about ‘not one soul leaving accidently.’
A soul who chooses to take their life is not committing a crime. Let us make that perfectly clear. For there are indoctrinations in your world that would disagree.
One who is so disturbed and saddened by ‘life’ that they FEEL the burning desire to leave … does so out of desperation. Do you think those enlightened ones on the other side of the veil would ‘shoo them away’ … ‘push them aside’ … when more than ever they are needing Love and consolation? Of course not.
Some rules in your world have such far reaching ‘side effects’ that are totally unnecessary.
If one was to question such things and come from a place within … these matters would immediately present a TRUTH that would MAKE SENCE … coming from Love. A lot of rules which one automatically accepts because they are taught not to question … make absolutely no sense at all … and yet so many ‘blindly’ accept them as fact.
There is also the possibility that a soul may have taken their own life by agreement to assist another … who is left behind … in their growth.
So much … so much dear friends cannot be understood … because there is so much to understand!! And definitely from ones Earthly perspective … one can become so lost in the ‘but what if this ’ or ‘how come that’.
Blossom you can feel as we send these words through to you that there are volumes more about each subject we speak … yet it simply is not possible to grasp it all and put it into words. Is this not so?
Yes … and this is where I guess … I have this KNOWING that you speak of. I do not KNOW everything that YOU KNOW on a certain matter … yet I KNOW I KNOW it all on another level of myself … if that makes sense. I fully accept these days that being in this Earthly body restricts so much of our knowledge and yet I FULLY EXPECT that as we move on up the scale … more and more of this KNOWING will be brought to the conscious level … instead of where it is now … in the unconscious.
These are wise words.
Wax on … wax off.
So we shall end this communication today with reiterating our intention of today’s subject matter.
Those of you who are in the situation of that which we have spoken of … will either become very angry at these words … or you will recognise them within your heart place and accept them and find the JOY within your quest .
For those who are angry … there will come a time when the anger shall subside and JOY shall replace it through ones attitude … if one so chooses.
Glad I am just the messenger here! I know it is time to go … but could we just clarify about ‘those concerned about leaving before THE EVENT is upon us?’
Indeed. Those who agreed to be here for THE EVENT will be here. Those who agreed to conduct their energy of THE EVENT from elsewhere … shall be doing that.
KNOW OF THIS.
Each one of you whether in the physical body or not … shall be exactly where they are meant to be … and wherever that is … NOT ONE SOUL SHALL MISS IT … OR INDEED MISS OUT.
Many thanks guys. We all appreciate your time and wisdom! In Love and thanks as always.
Ditto. Until next time … please make sure you make time to FEEL OUR LOVE FOR YOU.