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Archangel Michael on NESARA, Opposing the Cabal, and Ascension – Part 2/3

Archangel Michael on NESARA, Opposing the Cabal, and Ascension – Part 2/3. via SteveBeckow.com

by Steve Beckow

Continued from Part 1.  In this part AA Michael discusses Ascension to the Fifth Dimension.

SB: [laugh] All right. Well, I see that the time is moving on apace, so perhaps I could turn to a second area. And that is, I don’t think there is anyone, Lord, that I am aware of who has told us what actually occurs when we ascend. What actually takes place that the word ascension refers to and applies to? What are the events that we would be aware of, or even not aware of, that constitute ascension?

AAM: Well, I could tease you and tell you the key point of ascension is you get a new bank account. [Laughter] And it has unlimited funds! But that is not the case. But in a way it is.

SB: As in my being a co-creator?

AAM: That is correct. So, it is the elimination of what you think of in many ways of effort. The process, or the elongation, the period of time that this process takes can be slightly different for different people. As I have said to you there will be many at the last minute rushing through the door, and that will not be as smooth a journey as someone who has done their preparation adequately. And soulfully.

SB: That’s interesting, Lord.

AAM: Yes.

SB: And the work we do in completing our old business and upsets, that makes for a smooth transition? Is that right?

AAM: Yes, it does. Think of it in terms of when a baby, a human baby, is birthed, sometimes it is a very easy delivery, sometimes it is 30 hours of labor. Sometimes the mother decides to birth in the fields, sometimes she births in the ocean. Sometimes she goes to a beautiful room. Other times she goes to an operating room and has a C-section. But the birthing still occurs. So this is what happens.

SB: And what would I be aware of?

AAM: This is what I am going to tell you!

SB: [Laugh] Oh. Thank you.

AAM:  It is a feeling of complete and utter surrender and bliss. It is a sensation — physical, mental, emotional, spiritual — of union. So there is a moment where you feel, oh, I have died. Because that is the sense of such release and reconnection. But of course you are not dying.

Quite the contrary. Now, in much of your history or literature — and I do include sacred books in that — ascension is also related to a keeping of some kind of physicality and form. Now, some will choose not to do that [i.e., some will choose to transition to the Astral Planes and ascend from there], and that is fine. But that is a choice.

But let us talk about you. Let us use you as an example. Because you have done your very deep work, and your heart is committed to this path for many, many years, there will be that sense of blissful connection that you have experienced a couple of times, but it will be even more so.

The sense will be that you are flying upward. It is a physical sensation of movement. And a remembering, or a sensation of remembering, that you have wings, or the ability to fly. So that is the feeling of ascending up the sacred spiral.

There will also be in that period, which can be moments or a few hours, [a sensation] of feeling disassociated, that even if you were to open your eyes, even if you were to look at a floor, you would see that it is simply made of particles, subatomic particles, quantum particles, that it is not solid. So you have begun immediately to have the real sensation or vision of how things can be seen, and how they are seen, maybe, from this side.

So there is a sense of unreality. Now, if you wish to make things solid, you will just simply say that you want that, and it will appear. But the knowing that that is simply a construct that you are creating already is there in full consciousness. When you decide to open your eyes, how you see the colors, the textures, the richness, the air, will be very different. What you think of as your senses will be heightened, oh, at least a thousand-fold.

So, there is a little adjustment. And we are with you, and we obviously take care of that, because this is completely a joyous situation to be in. Think of it as being spiritually orgasmic. It is the union of all.

Then, you will settle into this knowing, and of course that choice of physicality. But also know that if you choose to keep physicality, immediately what you have noted as, what we would call human aches and pains are gone. But the biggest shift is you no longer live or exist — you can visit, you can exhibit, but you do not live — within the third dimension, where you are in that movement of what you think of as going up the sacred spiral.

That is the best analogy I can give you. It is the elevator to the Fifth [Notice that AA Michael says here the Fifth Dimension]. And further, there will be some who simply choose to keep going [to dimensions higher than the Fifth]. But as a collective, that is the plan.

And it will be the place of love. It will be all of a sudden that the decisions, the actions, the existence, the form is love, and is from love, and is of love. So that sense of either/or, of what you traditionally have thought of as yes or no, of duality, of polarity, is gone. It is the alignment. The entire journey in this third-dimensional existence is reaching this place of alignment, of placing yourself beyond the either/or. And when you are doing that in this ascension process, it is like a Roman candle: off you go.

[Steve: So once we are aligned and out of either/or, off we go.]

Now, you say, well, what about those around me? What about the physical world? And the ability to create and co-create, not only with us, but with each other, is very strong in this new reality that is as ancient as eternity. So there will be shifting, there will be shifting of what you choose to construct.

Now, it is not to say that you arrive in the fifth and it is a completely blank slate. There will be what you need there. But what you desire, or need, or believe you need, you will create. And the feeling, the belief that density and structure is the foundation of existence will not be part of that belief system, that reality.

You do not need, for example, central banks when you are able to simply create and collect the codes and have what you need. There is no need for protection of military forces or paramilitary forces, which is often how we think of your police forces, when you know that it is in harmony. So these structures, or institutions, as you think of them, are nonexistent. They’re gone.

SB: It’s hard for us to get that. Coming from third-dimensional reality, we tend to project the third dimension onto the fifth –

AAM: Yes

SB: — rather than understanding the changed reality that the fifth represents.

AAM: It doesn’t have the same rules. Now, think of this, my friend. Many of the structures you have — and we’re not suggesting that they have been not worthwhile; there are many worthwhile, many, many, many worthwhile things that the humans have constructed. But many more have been constructed on these false human paradigms that were not real.

And they most certainly were not of this side. And they were not of love. They were of belief in the need to control, or to be greedy, or to be lustful — to limit. This is the one that is always the most baffling throughout the universe. Why would you wish to limit any human being? Any being?

It is like saying to a flower, only bloom once. So many of your structures have been formulated on these belief systems that have been based on a much lower vibration than where you would wish to be. If there is love, there is trust. And if there is trust, you can organize yourselves. You are not going to wish to take what? Another’s land? Land does not belong to you, anyway. It is Gaia’s. She shares it with you.

This different reality is what you will see when you open your eyes. You will see that you are part of that infinite mosaic. The connectedness will be there and the loneliness will be gone. The yearning? It will not be there. Not in the same desperation that we witness in so many. And that is not a criticism. It is that they yearn to be part of One again. They know that that is who they are.

We have waited eons for this time. That is why we patiently restrain ourselves during these months.

SB: Could you expand on that last comment, Lord? You have waited eons for this time, and that’s why you are patient during these last…

AAM: That is why we are patient. We have been patient for a long time. [Laughter] And why we, when you say — and this is what many, many hope for … for Gabriel’s horn to be heard, and for us to sweep down and clean house.

SB: [Laugh] Yes. [Laugh]

AAM: And it is not that we are beyond doing that. [Laughter] But we are patient because this is our opportunity. We are meeting in the middle. You are lifting up to a level where we participate very differently. So, no, you cannot take all your precepts of the third dimension and apply them to the fifth. What you can apply is that there is a choice and there is a form of physicality. Yes, and you will have stars and a moon and a sun. You’re not shifting universes and galaxies. You are shifting dimensions.

SB: So some things are the same, and some things are different, and some things which are the same are also at the same time different.

AAM: That is correct.

SB: Okay. I certainly don’t want to interrupt you.

AAM: This is a conversation that needed to be had because it is like when someone says they are going on a safari and they are all excited, but they want to know: Where am I going to sleep? How am I going to be fed? Will I be taken care of? The answer is yes. You will be taken care of. You will be given every form of assistance. But it isn’t like an adjustment program. It isn’t like a relocation program. It is instantaneous. You are there.

Now, I know that you have other issues, but I just want to say one thing. Because we have also spoken of the waves of ascension.

SB: Yes.

AAM: So there will be a period of time when there will be a window, shall we say, that those who have already gone through the door can peek back or reach back, or what we call “exhibit,” so that they are also helping those who are in preparation for the next wave.

SB: Is that what is meant by the Return of the Masters?

AAM: Yes. Only you always think of the masters as the ascended ones. But, of course they will be. [Laughter] So, yes. Think of them as Gatekeepers.

SB: All right. I know a lot of people are going to ask how many of us will ascend on, say, the 28th of October, or November 11th. I am sure there are a lot of people who are wondering if they will ascend. Is there anything you can say about that, about the numbers who will ascend, or what it would take to ascend?

AAM: What it takes is a heartfelt commitment, and an energetic boost. Like jumping a car. That is what it takes – if you have done your work. We are not suggesting that if you have lived a life completely outside the understanding of your spirit or your heart that you will be amongst that first wave. That is very unlikely to happen.

SB: There are also people who have said to me that they also have the obligation to stay. So there will be some people who are qualified to go who won’t go because at some level they’ve agreed to stay. Is that correct?

AAM: That is absolutely correct. And those are the pillars. You are holding the space, and you are still the teachers, you are still the showers of the way. When there is a mass exodus, there are always those who stay to make sure that everybody who wishes to go is equipped and ready and gets the opportunity.

I am part of that, you know. [laughter] I am always there until the last.

SB: [Laugh] Thank you, Lord. There are people saying that they have had an inner message. They’ve heard a voice say, for instance, November 11th, or they just have had a feeling that they are going on this date. Is that — are those true messages?

AAM: Some of it is wishful thinking.

SB: All right.

AAM: And there is nothing wrong with wishful thinking, because wishful thinking becomes a declaration of intent.

Many of them are hearing correctly.

SB: All right. So many are and some aren’t. But even so, wishful thinking is a step on the path, and –

AAM: That is exactly correct. So they’re saying, I want to go, I just haven’t bought my ticket yet.

SB: All right.

AAM: And that is all right. There is still time.

SB: Okay. I perceive this difficult situation where some people will want to get rid of everything, and then find themselves still here. Any advice on that kind of situation?

AAM: Yes. Do not get rid of one darn thing. You have many false prophets on your planet. We do not say this in a critical way, for many of them are very well intentioned. But what does it matter what you take or leave? No, do not get rid of anything.

Now, if you are a hoarder, it is time to begin clearing, but that is not the question. It is not a question of cleaning up your affairs. It is not a question of making sure you’re telling everybody, well, don’t look for me after that date because I won’t be around. You may well be back, as one of those Gatekeepers.

SB: And are you saying that they may come back as a Gatekeeper and go to their former homes and live there?

AAM: Yes, but it will not be the same for them.

SB: Right.

AAM It will simply not be the same. So you are having inter-dimensional experiences all at the same time. Now, for most of you that has already been occurring. There is a great deal of inter-dimensional slippage. We have to travel through the dimensions constantly. We have to. We want to come and visit.

(Continued in Part 3.)

Archangel Michael on NESARA, Opposing the Cabal, and Ascension – Part 1/3

Archangel Michael on NESARA, Opposing the Cabal, and Ascension – Part 1/3. via SteveBeckow.com

by Steve Beckow

Thanks to Ellen for transcribing this interview with Archangel Michael.  I should mention that Ellen has transcribed this interview in the face of painful and limiting conditions.  I acknowledge her dedication.

Again I am divided as to how to present this transcript. The editorial side of me does not want to overload you and the transcript is 19 pages long. The Ramanuja side wants to rush everything he said into print.

What I have decided to do is to issue it in three parts. One part tonight. One part at 9 a.m. Pacific Time tomorrow. And one part at 3:00 p.m. Pacific Time tomorrow evening so that no one feels pressured and yet everyone has fairly quick access to the interview.

I have also provided URLs to all the parts so that those who wish to go ahead may do so.

In the first part, AAM discusses the NESARA timetable and the desirability of us in the West rising up, taking back control of our countries, and the manner in which that should be done.

In the second part, AAM gives a description of Ascension. He also describes the Return of the Masters (us).

In the third part, AAM says that children are innocent and will automatically ascend whether aware of Ascension or not, people who do not wish to ascend because of the need to care for a parent or child will have their “no” respected, and people who remain for the sake of a spouse or child will ascend without fear, even outside the supposed window of opportunity.

Here is a copy of the interview so that you can go on ahead by listening to it if you so wish.


In this part AAM discusses why the Company of Heaven has not brought in NESARA by now and how they are wanting us to have the opportunity to oppose and stop the elite on the planet and to experience our partnership with the Company of Heaven in turning the tide of darkness. Obviously the Arab Spring is for the Middle East their opportunity to have humanity turn the tide there. He said that the Occupy Together movement is our opportunity to stop the cabal here.

He said that popular resistance would grow from the Occupy Together movement. He said we must realize the power of No. We must say No to the elite and it was permissible to tell them to stop. He said that saying no would invoke divine intervention.

But our protest must be peaceful. He said it was alright to defend ourselves and our loved ones from being killed but not alright to willfully take another’s life. Defense with love is permissible; hatred is not permissible; and the taking of life should be avoided on any grounds. He said that it is not acceptable to wage war on the basis that God is on our side, that religious wars have been fought on that basis and have been the bane of our world.

He talked about the destruction that was necessary before the construction. I wanted to suggest the word “de-c0nstruction,” which is what I felt he meant, but I did not want to interrupt him. Nevertheless he said he was referring to the tearing down of the old that must occur before the raising up of the new.

I would think it hardly necessary to point out to anyone that he is not saying to sack the homes of the wealthy or anything of the sort, but rather the deconstruction of the financial and other institutional supports of the dark cabal.

We must do what we need to do peacefully and lovingly because violence begets violence and changes that are brought in with violence are subject to being overturned, as dictated by the natural law of karma.

I hope I have removed any grounds for anyone saying that he or I are somehow mandating or supporting violence while at the same time also saying that it is acceptable to defend ourselves against being killed. I pray to Archangel Michael that I have not misinterpreted his words.

[Opening prayer deleted.]

Archangel Michael: Greetings. I am Michael.

Steve Beckow: Thank you for coming, Lord.

AAM: Welcome. Welcome, my beloved brother of peace — bringer of light, defender of love. You are doing well.

SB: Thank you, Lord.

AAM: And you know, so is the planet. So is the collective. They are digging deeper into their hearts, and they are beginning to express their love. Yes, there is still a great deal of chaos, upheaval and change, but that is also necessary for what we have talked about in terms of shifting realities. So, from our perspective, does it go quickly enough? Not nearly.


But it is progressing. And it is like the tide coming in and then going out. And there is a push and a pull. And that is what we are doing, in very simplistic terms, with the human race. We are pushing a little harder to help you go forward, and at the same time we are pulling you upward, or what you think of [as] upward. But it is a sacred spiral. It is a continuity not only of energy, but of life, of love.

Now, I will not sit here and preach, for I know there is a great deal that you also wish to speak of this day.

SB: Yes, in fact, that’s true. Shall I ask you my questions, then, Lord?

AAM: Yes, but before you do — and I say this to you, my beloved brother — never hesitate to ask me anything. Not in the form of a question or in the form of assistance. I am more than prepared to help in whatever way I can. It is not only my duty, it is my joy. It is who I am.

SB: I — I know that you are reading my mind, so to speak, or that you know of my conversation about wanting to ask you certain questions. So, thank you for clarifying that.

[My wife had asked me to ask AAM about a rash that I have and I had told my wife that I was not going to ask an archangel a personal question about a rash. Now here was AAM saying that I could ask him any question. So in the private part of my tape I did ask him what the spiritual significance of the rash was. He replied that it represented that I was wanting to jump out of my skin and was irritated that I had to be in a physical, 3D body and to go so slow. There’s no doubt about the truth of that.]

AAM: It is all right. And it is important for everyone to know that.

SB: All right.

AAM: No job is too big or too small. And you know I have some helpers I can call on.

SB: [Laugh] I ‘m sure you do. [Steve: Like a legion of helpers.] Thank you, Lord.

AAM: So let us begin.

SB: All right. Well, my first question is — just to get this out of the way, because I know that a lot of my readers have this question. And that’s if you can give us any word on how NESARA is progressing, when we might expect it?

AAM: It is really stalled. But it is in tandem, a great deal of it, all of this – as we have said – is not necessarily sequential, but it is certainly related.

What you are seeing is that the human collective all over your world is saying that it doesn’t work, that the financial system and the greed, the hubris of your financial system is not only in moral decay; it is in institutional decay. And so that is already falling apart.

Now, of course, there are powers that be, particularly in what you can think of as ruling nations, that wish to keep the status quo and to hang on to what they have – as if they did not have enough. It is the political will to truly step forward and to declare that basically they are prepared to begin with a new system.

And it is a system the foundation of which is forgiveness, eradication, a fresh start. But, very similar to disclosure – except you are not having the same aspect of a fear of invasion – it will happen. We believe this will occur. It is on our timeline that this will occur before the end of the year.

SB: When you say it is stalled, do you mean stalled in light of your previous statements about the end of the year, or just stalled in terms of ongoing movement?

AAM: We mean that there is no ongoing movement at this time. Yes, we do have this deadline that we have spoken to you about, about the end of the year. But let us also say we have talked in the beginning about a push and pull here, and from our perspective we would have liked to have had this occur already.

SB: Right.

AAM: We are very aware of human suffering, and we are very aware of the situation in which many, too many, find themselves in, and we also know that it is very difficult. And for some, they have not reached the point as yet where they can sit in the place of peace or silence when they are worried about whether they can feed their children, whether they can maintain a home, whether they can have a home, whether they can buy corn.

And so it is part of the shifting energies that this will simply not be an issue, so that people can begin to truly focus on what is important.

It is also part of the eradication and the destruction, which is my job. It is part of the destruction of those who have burdened many. And who have not come from a place of integrity or ethical behavior.

I do not speak in terms of punishment. That is not of love. That is not of wholeness. But you will hear me speak, and you have heard me speak, in terms of destruction.

And destruction is simply part of construction. Very often you have to simply tear away in order to rebuild, to allow the light to shine. So this is part of the destruction that has need to take place.

And we had hoped that this would occur actually in September. And for many different reasons we had anticipated that it would happen mid-September, and at the latest mid-December. So you are right in the middle.

When we say it is stalled, we mean that the political forces are not making a decision. They are engaging the energy, they are concerned about the maintenance of their political power base.

SB: Have we not passed the divine deadline, Lord, in regards to some of these matters? And if we have, how is it that the Company of Light doesn’t push these forces aside?

AAM: The deadline has come and gone. And we will push them aside, if that is what is required. But our biggest hope and desire — and plan — is the partnership with humans, and your star brothers and sisters, for that matter.

So it is the decision about, okay, let’s wait a few more minutes and see if the populace, if the people will take this matter and meet us halfway. And we are saying the people are in movement. The political side is stalled, but the people are not.

SB: Well, perhaps we could talk about the people for a moment, then. The Occupy Together movement — is that going to fulfill its promise? Is that going to be a leading vehicle of protest and change?

AAM: Yes. It has already begun. It is already underway.

SB: So if we put our effort behind that, that would be rewarded?

AAM: It would be giving it the support that it needs, the encouragement that it deserves. Absolutely, it would be rewarded.

SB: All right. And is there a piece of the puzzle yet to come, or is Occupy Together the piece of the puzzle that we’ve been waiting for?

AAM: It is the rallying point. The piece of the puzzle is the growth. It is the growth of so many people simply saying, “No.” It is the power of No. Very often, humans have come to understand — particularly the light holders, light workers, have understood quite clearly the power of Yes. But they have not fully embraced or understood the power of No.

And so, as the numbers grow, as that shift takes place, then the political inaction will see where their support really is. And support in that sense is in numbers.

SB: So we need to get out there.

AAM: And understand: to get out there in peace. To get out there in peaceful resistance. It is the rebirth of hope in so many ways that is so encouraging. And that is why the Company of Heaven has not come in and just done clean-up. We would rather do it in partnership.

SB: All right. What do I say to those who say that “no” is negative?

AAM: “No” is not negative. It is part of the definition of the dimension and the reality and the experience that you are having. You do not say, “Oh, yes, you may trample on me, you may trample on my rights, you may take away my freedom.”

Those are innate rights. This is your birthright. It is why you have come. It is to know the joy of physicality. It is to know the evolution, not only of your species, but of the entire planet, of this entire organism. “No” has come to mean refusal, or departure. But when you say “No, this is not acceptable behavior, this is not of light,” it is part of that pulling down, it is part of the destruction.

People are very afraid of this word. They are almost as afraid of the word of destroy as they are of surrender. And you know what? Those two are very intimately connected. “No” is simply saying, “Change course. Not allowable. Not of love.”

SB: All right. If somebody from the side of the elite were to attack me or my loved ones, and it looks like they would be killed, have I the right to defend myself?

AAM: Yes, you do. But there is a difference between defending and killing. There is a difference between the willful taking of somebody else’s life. And you have had too much of that, so why would you ever wish to participate in that?

Because what you are then doing is simply adding to that negative force. And you need to understand that, no, the power of “No” is misunderstood. And it does not mean negative. It means shift the energy completely. It is saying no, and turning back the tide.

What you have not fully come to realize in terms of the usage — and when I say you, dear heart, I mean you, the collective, — what you do not understand in terms of the usage of your innate abilities is that when you say no, your shields are up, your sword is drawn, and what you perceive as the danger, or the enemy, or, yes, the darkness, will turn around and go.

SB: All right, Lord. Where is the line between what is acceptable in self defense and what is not?

AAM: The line is in the willful killing. And we are not saying, because we know the evolutionary points of human existence, but there is a point at which the heart becomes enraged with bitterness, and the killing is willful.

And what we mean is not an act of will — well, it is, but it is not an act of love. To lay down your life because someone wishes to kill you is all right, my friend.

SB: That’s a controversial statement, Lord, lay down my life because someone wants to kill me.

AAM: Yes.

SB: I’m sure my readers may find that a difficult saying. Could you expand a bit on that?

AAM: Yes. I think I’d better. Because I am not suggesting that you all lie down. And I am also not suggesting that there would not be divine intervention.

What I am asking of you — and you know we have travelled to the very heart of darkness, and we have done battle [This is the second time AAM has mentioned this. I have no remembrance at this time of the actual event he is referring to, but I’m sure I will when the veil comes off] , but when it is done with hatred, when it is done in such a way that you destroy your own core, then what you have just done is destroy who you are.

Well, you would say to me, “But, Lord, after the deed is done, could I not regain my core? Could I not regain my center? Is there not mercy and forgiveness?” And I say, yes, of course. But why would you jeopardize that core of bright light? Why would you surrender it to hatred? To darkness? To bitterness? Why would you go to the other side?

And you are saying, “Well, I would do it for love, I would do it to defend those I love.” We hear that a lot, you know. And we hear it in every nation, in all kinds of situations that have been pushed by righteous belief.

Every religious war has been based on this belief, on righteous love and being in the right side. How can you be in the core of wholeness and be in hatred?

Now, I am not saying that when there are situations of what you think of as battle or combat that there are many, many, many, many times when death occurs, and when it does, it breaks the person’s heart because they know what they have done, and then there is reconstruction. Then the core is being healed.

So I would be a very naïve archangel if I was to say that the death or the defense never takes place in terms of the laying down of lives. But we would ask, we would beg, and we would guide you never to do this with malice or hatred. Because what it does is it takes you away.

It is this belief — and it is a belief we share, by the way — that all life is sacred. All life is sacred. And all life is transient.

The eternal flame, it never dies. It never passes away. So in that moment of decision, do not embrace the hatred. And do not underestimate the power of no. Because also when you are saying no you are commanding and praying for divine intervention. You are asking for help. And when that cry comes up, it is heard.

You have raised a very important question because there are different kinds of violence. And I have spoken of religious battle and war, which is the anathema of your planet. And it is part of my job to bring back peace. It is part of all of our jobs to bring back peace.
But there is also violence that occurs simply from greed, from mental imbalance, from emotional imbalance.

But now we get to the crux as well. And I do not want this, and I do not wish your readers to approach this, as simply an intellectual conversation, because it is not. You’ve asked about NESARA, and I have said that the gathering of the populace is the part of the key, part of the puzzle.

There are many ways in which violence occurs. And this is the most difficult part of my initiative to restore peace on Earth. It is the people who are being killed inch by inch by inch by the violence of uncaring society, of uncaring power, by starvation, by no clean water, by ignorance.

Is it allowable, is it permissible, to fight back? Absolutely. Tooth and nail. With everything that you have. And I will help you. But if you say to me, “I want to kill that person because I hate who they are,” I will say, draw back, come back, do not take this into your heart. Because it kills more than the person, it kills a part of you.

SB: So the line is where hatred comes into the heart?

AAM: Yes.

SB: All right, that’s very clear. Just an aside, Lord. SaLuSa, in his September 28th message, said that the movement for change has also been helped along by great beings who are using their influence to insure that the leaders of these movements are inspired for the right motives. Was he referring to your initiative for peace?

AAM: Yes, he was. But I am not the only one that is assisting. There are many.

SB: All right.

AAM: Because there are many on this side. Gabrielle, she is assisting also. You know she loves to organize things.

SB: Uh-huh.

AAM: Yeshua-Jesus-Sananda is assisting as well. Because he sees this as a return, again, to the gatherings, and to the love. And Lord Maitreya is also assisting.

SB: Is this Maitreya in the body, or Maitreya from the spirit planes?

AAM: From the spirit plane.

SB: All right. So not the Maitreya that Benjamin Creme talks about?

AAM: No. And I think of him as the Big Buddha.

SB: The Big Buddha? [Laughs]

AAM: So there are many. You know, my beloved brother, Archangel Uriel –

SB: Yes.

AAM: — with his flame, his silver, that burns so brightly throughout the universe. He is the bringer of the future. He sees the future in these gatherings. He helps as well. There are very few of us that are not fully engaged. We restrain ourselves in some situations. And you know I have never been one known for great restraint.


AAM: But here we are, in a time of movement, where the populace is reclaiming what is theirs.

SB: So are you restraining yourself in order to allow us to play our part?

AAM: That is correct.

SB: Then I guess we’d better get a move on.

AAM: When we say we are pushing and pulling, I am not just speaking metaphorically.

(Continued in Part 2, where AAM turns to describing what we experience when we ascend to the Fifth Dimension.)